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sad world we live in, but people have to realize, these type of things have a negative impact on the economy. the senate that we can beat this debt the better it's going to be for everybody. gerri: last word. tell me, are drones enough to take care of this problem? >> the bottom line, but we have to learn is that we cannot afford billiard. terrorists love a vacuum, and wherever it develops kamal to leave, to pose a threat to the united states. next year it could be afghanistan. we have to be on guard. gerri: thank you for coming on. great job. you guys really explained it all. thank you. >> thanks. gerri: if you're fired up about this or any of the issues, a drop me an e-mail. >> coming up on "the willis report," unemployment is higher. could it be because he has gone awful year without meeting with his jobs council? we tackle this and more house republicans finally unveil their new debt ceiling deal. we examine the good combat command ugly with americans for tax reform president grover norquist later. one ohio teacher said she has a crippling fear of being children, but is still being force
sad world we live in, but people have to realize, these type of things have a negative impact on the economy. the senate that we can beat this debt the better it's going to be for everybody. gerri: last word. tell me, are drones enough to take care of this problem? >> the bottom line, but we have to learn is that we cannot afford billiard. terrorists love a vacuum, and wherever it develops kamal to leave, to pose a threat to the united states. next year it could be afghanistan. we have to...
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so there are ways that we can do it, but to say that we're not -- we're going to jeopardize the economy of the united states and frankly even the world by not paying the bills that have already been incurred is absolutely -- [talking over to each other] david: you were willing to bring us to that brink in 02, 04, and 06. >> no i wasn't. david: you voted in favor of keeping the debt limit ceiling right where it was, that was the same kind of danger in going over into that default mode, no? >> it wasn't because that was a kind of protest vote knowing very full well that this was going to pass. are we seriously going to not let president bush pay for the debts that had been incurred? i absolutely would have voted in favor of raising the debt ceiling. david: final question about spending because i'm getting a wrap here. >> sure. david: we had in 2008 we had spending level of about 3 trillion dollars. in 2009 that ballooned up about 20% to about 3 1/2 trillion dollars. now, a lot of that was because of the stimulus program, which was part bush and part president obama. but then we remained a
so there are ways that we can do it, but to say that we're not -- we're going to jeopardize the economy of the united states and frankly even the world by not paying the bills that have already been incurred is absolutely -- [talking over to each other] david: you were willing to bring us to that brink in 02, 04, and 06. >> no i wasn't. david: you voted in favor of keeping the debt limit ceiling right where it was, that was the same kind of danger in going over into that default mode, no?...
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this is a developing economy. so in terms of guidelines, the latest figures that we saw for 2012 in terms of gdp or for industrial output and everything else that we saw today looks as though it's point to go a rebound for the chinese economy. although the big question is whether or not this is a full blown recovery and we just don't have those answers yet. kelly. >> eunice, thanks very much recording in from the evening in beijing. you can see the increase in smog we've been seeing all week there. for more on what's happening in china, lewis patz. welcome. thank you so much for your time today. let's start, because as we just heard from eunice, there's a sense that maybe if the decimal point doesn't tell you the whole story, it does add to the feeling growth is turning around. do you expect in 2013 that we see a pick up in china? >> yes. i do think that 2013 as a whole will look better than 2012 did. we started 2012 very weak. we ended 2012 a bit better and we enter 2013 stronger. so it's that momentum that reall
this is a developing economy. so in terms of guidelines, the latest figures that we saw for 2012 in terms of gdp or for industrial output and everything else that we saw today looks as though it's point to go a rebound for the chinese economy. although the big question is whether or not this is a full blown recovery and we just don't have those answers yet. kelly. >> eunice, thanks very much recording in from the evening in beijing. you can see the increase in smog we've been seeing all...
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. >> for the economy? i think we have to divorce the economy from the market. >> have we been price thatting that out? >> we have to be clear that markets are totally different from the economy. for the markets, we're looking at 2% scenario. scenario a would be similar to 2012 where i think actually the economy doesn't do that well. the first half is difficult. second half is a bit better. we've still got the fed printing 5 billion a month. we could see a rerun of 2012. maybe mid to single high digit returns. >> did you get exposure of citi to bofa here? >> we wouldn't be. we're taking a little bit of money off the table or indeed i think we did. the level of implied volatility makes perfect sense here. >> we'll leave it here for now. thanks very much. over to you, ross. >> kelly, thanks for that. so we are just about an hour and 20 minutes into the trading day here in europe. you can see advancers just about outpace decliners by a ratio of 6 to 4 and we're up near the high point of the session which has d
. >> for the economy? i think we have to divorce the economy from the market. >> have we been price thatting that out? >> we have to be clear that markets are totally different from the economy. for the markets, we're looking at 2% scenario. scenario a would be similar to 2012 where i think actually the economy doesn't do that well. the first half is difficult. second half is a bit better. we've still got the fed printing 5 billion a month. we could see a rerun of 2012. maybe...
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. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> reporter: republicans called the president hypocritical for saying he will not negotiate over the debt limit while blasting republicans for refusing to negotiate. and they fired back that the debate over the debt ceiling was the perfect time to consider legislation to cut spending. at the same time, only a handful of republicans have actually said they'd let the united states default on its bills. >> the president claims this, but republicans have always raised the debt ceiling. we've never seen the debt limit fail to be raised. all they have said is we want to apply the same criteria that the president himself applied when he was a senator and say we don't want to give the president a blank check. we would like to fix the substantive problem which is the level and the growth in the debt. >> reporter: markets are almost trea
. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> reporter: republicans called the president hypocritical for saying he will not negotiate over the debt limit while blasting republicans for refusing to negotiate. and they fired back that the debate over the debt ceiling was the perfect...
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is the world's largest economy, the u.s. dollar is a global reserve currency. housing continues to pick up, unemployment is going down, american corporations are the world's largest and they're sitting on lots of cash, which, you know, sort of quixotically it's precisely that strength that allows washington to continue to be so incredibly dysfunctional. yeah, i'm feeling pretty bad over whae's coming out of capitol hill in the next few months but it's not medication that leads me to believe america is stable. >> even washington may not be able to mess up what's going on. christine romans, we've been talking about the consequences of not having a budget, a serious plan to deal with debt and deficits. but a number of prominent democrats point out the debt problem isn't that much of a problem. money is basically free many america and republicans should stop obsessing about it. >> a new narrative and they're getting bolder with it. the debate is the way liberals and conservatives see the world. those on the left have no problem with the government taking a larger r
is the world's largest economy, the u.s. dollar is a global reserve currency. housing continues to pick up, unemployment is going down, american corporations are the world's largest and they're sitting on lots of cash, which, you know, sort of quixotically it's precisely that strength that allows washington to continue to be so incredibly dysfunctional. yeah, i'm feeling pretty bad over whae's coming out of capitol hill in the next few months but it's not medication that leads me to believe...
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the dividend will account for a larger share of the stock's total economy. liz: so the stock actually went up in price? >> i think we are headed back towards the 50s. it is an important trend and i think we are trending towards 50% there. liz: it's like we've been slammed in hammer. it's now a $4.36 price here. we like maggie, she's a smart leader, but you can't -- you talk about the dividends? >> it's important to look at the company. in total it has to have appreciation potential. liz: why canada? >> they surpass the u.s. on the economic freedom index. they are ahead of us now. liz: what are the metrics for the economic freedom? >> is a whole monetary fiscal policy. liz: is a great for businesses? >> it is. they ought to be the fiscal model of the g7. if you look at corporate taxes, they are all trending in the right direction from a public standpoint. the country has a lot of natural resources. liz: but you don't want to become like australia. >> in terms of being a natural resource country, they do have a lot of natural resources companies, but they have
the dividend will account for a larger share of the stock's total economy. liz: so the stock actually went up in price? >> i think we are headed back towards the 50s. it is an important trend and i think we are trending towards 50% there. liz: it's like we've been slammed in hammer. it's now a $4.36 price here. we like maggie, she's a smart leader, but you can't -- you talk about the dividends? >> it's important to look at the company. in total it has to have appreciation potential....
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a lot of the conditions in the economy are slow. it spending is to the really that great. so i don't know if the estimates are that achievable. i also think that yeah, better risk/reward in other sectors in the market. we're trying to advise our clients how to outperform the s&p. i think there is better opportuniy. within tech there are some things we like where recommending suck stocks for example. i think that is one economically sensitive area that the stocks haven't participated that much in the rally. >> susie: let's talk about the areas that have been telling your clients, morgan stanley clients which direction to go. you have three big themes for your clients. buy stocks with from american companies with exposure to china, positive on china. buy dividend paying stocks and you like very large stocks, what you call megastocks. why are these the themes for you? >> well, look, for china i think we identified late last fall that the u.s. companies with china exposure had really lagged the broader market and had gotten quite cheap. and the china economy started to stabili
a lot of the conditions in the economy are slow. it spending is to the really that great. so i don't know if the estimates are that achievable. i also think that yeah, better risk/reward in other sectors in the market. we're trying to advise our clients how to outperform the s&p. i think there is better opportuniy. within tech there are some things we like where recommending suck stocks for example. i think that is one economically sensitive area that the stocks haven't participated that...
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the economy according to ben bernanke - what the fed chair has to say about the state of the country's finances. and, how automakers are setting a new pace for competition. plus, traders who are sweet and sour on apple. first business starts now. you're watching first business: financial news, analysis, and today's investment ideas. good morning. i'm angela miles. it's tuesday, january 15th. in today's first look: as facebook makes its big reveal on its new product today, shares briefly climbed above $32 yesterday. bloomberg news reports dell is in talks to end its trading days and go private. federal regulators order jp morgan chase to improve its risk management after losing billions in trading last year. and american airlines bond holders meet today to weigh in on whether the airline should merge with u.s. airways. ira epstein of the linn group joins us now. always a pleasure to have you on the show. what is going on with the market? it is so resilient. where is all this money coming from ira? > > think about it: 2012, the end of the year, we didn't know where we were in taxes, peop
the economy according to ben bernanke - what the fed chair has to say about the state of the country's finances. and, how automakers are setting a new pace for competition. plus, traders who are sweet and sour on apple. first business starts now. you're watching first business: financial news, analysis, and today's investment ideas. good morning. i'm angela miles. it's tuesday, january 15th. in today's first look: as facebook makes its big reveal on its new product today, shares briefly climbed...
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the second-largest airline is said to be struggling with competition, high fuel prices and the german economy. australian vitamin and supplement maker swisse vitamins is crossing the pacific pond. the privately-held company will set up its north american headquarters in chicago and start selling its most popular products in walgreens stores starting february 1st. rite aid and target stores will start selling the products in april. the company's ceo says the products it sells will be manufactured in utah and florida. swisse vitamins is positioning itself as a premium product and intends to price its products 5-10% above competitors such as pfizer and bayer. the nation's largest retailer is reaching out to men and women in the service. wal-mart is offering a job to every veteran who honorably left the military in the past year. the program will continue for 5 years and is expected to provide work for more than 100,000 veterans. additionally, the retailer is committing to buying an additional $50 billion of u.s.- made products in the next 10 years. the government of japan joins the u.s. governme
the second-largest airline is said to be struggling with competition, high fuel prices and the german economy. australian vitamin and supplement maker swisse vitamins is crossing the pacific pond. the privately-held company will set up its north american headquarters in chicago and start selling its most popular products in walgreens stores starting february 1st. rite aid and target stores will start selling the products in april. the company's ceo says the products it sells will be...
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i bet that this is one of these moments where the world economies are going to be better. i say that because it is the same batehavior i've seen over d over and over again. they are days to buy, not sell. in order to get into this bull market, here is the bottom line, i think this market is simply taking a snooze after a big bull run. but wakes itself up perhaps with my clock and if history serves me right, they go higher not lower and it is turned out that their evaluations ended up being catalysts galore. bob in florida, bob >> it is fwrat to tais great to. south florida by way of teaneck, new jersey. i'm calling about krispy kreme donuts. i sold it and forgot about it and now it seems like they reinvented themselves. the stock is up 70% since mid november and still trading. even talk about take over. >> i believe there is a turn going on. it has been ages since i looked at it. the last time i looked at it i chipped my tooth. i will do more work on it and see where this one can stop. nobody does know. robert in massachusetts, robert. >> booyah jim, hail from massachusett
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economy. >>> and jump t to the top of the ftse 100 after third quarter revenue beat the forecast, burberry had earnings higher than expected. >>> all right. sorted out my mike issues. "worldwide exchange" is slightly different today because we're analyzing the first german gdp numbers. >> and i come to the u.s. where it's all annualized and we stick to the european data and it's quarter on quarter. given the context, we're still working through what all that means. >> exports in november, down 94.1 billion is where we essentially went. 98.4 billion was the october numbers. so exports in november driving down. and that gdp number is worth pulling out. exports for the year, up 4.1%. as far as production is concerned, it was up 2% in november. but the forecast were for it to rise up 1%. it was a very weak october, as well. it was this production and that production number. when that came out, it essentially made people put a pretty fourth quarter in the whole, kelly. what we're trying to do is de
economy. >>> and jump t to the top of the ftse 100 after third quarter revenue beat the forecast, burberry had earnings higher than expected. >>> all right. sorted out my mike issues. "worldwide exchange" is slightly different today because we're analyzing the first german gdp numbers. >> and i come to the u.s. where it's all annualized and we stick to the european data and it's quarter on quarter. given the context, we're still working through what all that...
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to get the economy growing faster. >> would you be one? >> unlike the congress, the fed has done quite a lot and there isn't very much more the fed could do. i would certainly be with chairman bernanke. i was happy when they switched over, which is likely to have a bigger impact on the economy. the other thing i've been urging on the fed but they're not doing it is cut the interest rates by holding idle excess reserves in the hope that some of that will go into the economy. >> we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for your thoughts today. let's bring in don peebles of the peebles corporate. don, great to have you on the set today. >> good to be here. >> how does it play out? >> in the end it's a lot of drama about a profungtsry performance. the government needs to stand behind its credit. that's one of the benefits as a government, we get low rates because our credit is good. it's a shame we're spejd all this time. we spent much more than we take in. and we can't continue do that. we even done what we're going to do on the tax
to get the economy growing faster. >> would you be one? >> unlike the congress, the fed has done quite a lot and there isn't very much more the fed could do. i would certainly be with chairman bernanke. i was happy when they switched over, which is likely to have a bigger impact on the economy. the other thing i've been urging on the fed but they're not doing it is cut the interest rates by holding idle excess reserves in the hope that some of that will go into the economy. >>...
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the tailwind for housing recovery will provide for the banking sector for consumer confidence for our economy in general. we have to see financials do well kicking off tomorrow. david: we're going to talk the market just tomorrow about this, but is there any kind of move we could see a selloff springtime when a lot of people are saving their cash? >> that is so well advertised. everybody whereby short-term correction and to that point maybe people talking about the next of the 1425, the next resistance, going up to far too fast, but so well advertised. everybody knows what they are. still seems to be higher. everybody is thinking we will see a correction and that is probably why we will not see one. david: thank you very much. we will see you in a couple of minutes when the market closes. hang on for that. liz: let's bring in our panel for the market. let me begin with you. you are pretty bearish, but to say you're bearish is unfair to the viewers because the market is such a huge living, breathing creature. where are you most concerned and what do you like that doesn't scare you? >> we like
the tailwind for housing recovery will provide for the banking sector for consumer confidence for our economy in general. we have to see financials do well kicking off tomorrow. david: we're going to talk the market just tomorrow about this, but is there any kind of move we could see a selloff springtime when a lot of people are saving their cash? >> that is so well advertised. everybody whereby short-term correction and to that point maybe people talking about the next of the 1425, the...
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economy. we'll see their economy return to growth. and you can't ultimately pay down debt until you've got economic growth. >> and just to get a little specific, what trades do you like then given the scenario that you're laying out? >> i think generally -- i think the story about europe is a global one because it's been the biggest drag on global growth. we've had a global confidence cries us that has prevented all of this cash -- if you look at u.s. companies, there's $2 trillion of cash -- >> trades, trades, pierce, trades. >> equities primarily. >> okay. >> and then you can pick. i think it's still going to be a macro move. you say trade, you want me to talk about sectors or geographic locations, fine. i think generally equities will go higher. peripheral europe will still outperform as will china. i like china particularly because it's undervalued. i think they're going to benefit from the european story. >> we'll talk about what needs to happen in the bond markets, as well. >> yes. >> in
economy. we'll see their economy return to growth. and you can't ultimately pay down debt until you've got economic growth. >> and just to get a little specific, what trades do you like then given the scenario that you're laying out? >> i think generally -- i think the story about europe is a global one because it's been the biggest drag on global growth. we've had a global confidence cries us that has prevented all of this cash -- if you look at u.s. companies, there's $2 trillion...
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if they do this, what happens to the economy, the stock market? >> well, i would think that financial markets have had enough warning of a possible downgrade of the u.s. aaa credit rating by an agency other than s&p, and thus perhaps it would not have that damaging impact. the downgrade was not especially g. that being said there will be a negative psychological shock that will temporarily send share prices sharply lower, but provided that policymakers in washington could reassure markets that washington is going to do more to stabilize the budget. maybe that -- gerri: it makes into the pipe. they did it -- did not to say there are going to downgraded if we did not like the debt ceiling prices go away. they also said the current outlook is likely to be resolved even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. they want to see spending cut. now, do you think that the markets would go to town if there was some big deal on spending? >> i think if substantial progress was made at kirby expenditures over time so that this threat of a data rate could be
if they do this, what happens to the economy, the stock market? >> well, i would think that financial markets have had enough warning of a possible downgrade of the u.s. aaa credit rating by an agency other than s&p, and thus perhaps it would not have that damaging impact. the downgrade was not especially g. that being said there will be a negative psychological shock that will temporarily send share prices sharply lower, but provided that policymakers in washington could reassure...
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economy barely grew 1% in the fourth quarter. we have a situation where it could be sluggish in the first quarter. we're up five points on the s&p since december since we had qe3 and the fed indicating they would target unemployment. to us it feels like we're in the stratosphere. >> the market down 20%. isn't that recession you're talking about? >> you got to think there's a danger. doesn't have to be a recession. you have to think there's a danger. if you look at the dynamics, you look at the consumer confidence numbers which are beginning to roll a little bit, there is a danger that could take place and a lot will depend on the resolution. look at the vix and these low levels on this downward sloping trend line the pattern is very similar to april of 2011. i'm sure you all remember that the stock market held up a little bit longer and turned in may and then between may and august it dropped 22%. what was the biggest factor? the debt ceiling negotiations. >> tom the market really rolled over in the spring of 2011 because trichet
economy barely grew 1% in the fourth quarter. we have a situation where it could be sluggish in the first quarter. we're up five points on the s&p since december since we had qe3 and the fed indicating they would target unemployment. to us it feels like we're in the stratosphere. >> the market down 20%. isn't that recession you're talking about? >> you got to think there's a danger. doesn't have to be a recession. you have to think there's a danger. if you look at the dynamics,...
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melissa: is good for the economy, good for jobs, what is your main message? >> fracking has never polluted water sources. at least the head of the epa, she said that twice to congress, not a single piece of scientific evidence to show the fracking -- melissa: because there is no evidence, people have not been out there looking at it, have not been focused long enough. just trying to be the devil's advocate. >> fracking has been going on in america since 1947. there is a big test pool. we would have known about it by now. every step to fracking it is scientific reports. this is one place where the science is settled. fracking has been going on since 1947. melissa: do you think you'll be able to reach enough people out there o where does the name of matt damon reach more people? >> it has zerasked nominations, a very interesting phenomenon. we will be on tv and that is great, every american, most americans will have a chance to see it. on access to january 22, 9:00 p.m. eastern. melissa: you have to get your plug-in. thank you for coming on. time for today's fu
melissa: is good for the economy, good for jobs, what is your main message? >> fracking has never polluted water sources. at least the head of the epa, she said that twice to congress, not a single piece of scientific evidence to show the fracking -- melissa: because there is no evidence, people have not been out there looking at it, have not been focused long enough. just trying to be the devil's advocate. >> fracking has been going on in america since 1947. there is a big test...
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rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. with investment information, risks, fees and expenses we replaced people with a machine.r, what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello? ally bank. your money needs an ally. it's the musical melissa: can you ever have too many snakes? we told you about the first ever python challenge in the everglades. offering prizes to whoever snags the most snakes. as well as two bags the biggest. so for hundreds of people have shown up to get in on the action including fox news down there with a machete. look at that. you look very scary. and imposing. >> this is the recommended tool to take out. guns and machetes. after three d
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the companies that moved so aggressively overseas stopped being dragged down by our sluggish economy. the move is in its infancy. they were left for dead in 2012 and are roaring back to life. i think they will gain steam as the wrangling in washington goes on for the rest of the year and beyond. fred in ohio, fred? >> caller: yes, jim. boo-yah. this is fred from ohio. it's a pleasure to talk to you. >> we loved ohio when we went out there last year to see massillon play some other ohio team. we were in that town. >> caller: i've been watching you from day one. >> thank you. >> caller: i want to know what do you expect from pepsi on the first quarter earnings and china and the association with burger king and marketing. what do you think of the first quarter earnings? >> i think the ceo is going to deliver a really, really good quarter. i think that stock -- its emphasis on emerging markets, it's going to do a great job. i would own pepsico going into the quarter. dino in california, dino? >> caller: jimmy. >> yo-yo. >> caller: happy new year. >> happy new year. >> caller: by the way,
the companies that moved so aggressively overseas stopped being dragged down by our sluggish economy. the move is in its infancy. they were left for dead in 2012 and are roaring back to life. i think they will gain steam as the wrangling in washington goes on for the rest of the year and beyond. fred in ohio, fred? >> caller: yes, jim. boo-yah. this is fred from ohio. it's a pleasure to talk to you. >> we loved ohio when we went out there last year to see massillon play some other...
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you know, the economy, you know, two steps forward, one step back, and corporate america can't carry the water. it will be difficult for the market, and priced pretty much to perfection at the current level with popular averages, not leaving room for disappointment. liz: hate one step forward, two back -- >> no, the other way. liz: either way, not moving fast. is that at a decent clip? >> actually, that's something we talked about last week on the show, and what we're looking at, again, south africa, right now, the mining situation is getting worse and worse, and -- liz: labor issues? >> the strikes, strikes, labor issues, and a threat that some of the major companies are shutting down the mines until they resolve this. we'll have a shortage in these areas, and, also, seeing platinum taking a bit of a piggy back ride up. it's at the 1680s mirroring where gold is now. silver is joining along for the ride. we're seeing a lot happening with the precious metals. liz: platinum is higher than gold for the first time in ten months. do you care? is that significant? it's 1682 against 1680, t
you know, the economy, you know, two steps forward, one step back, and corporate america can't carry the water. it will be difficult for the market, and priced pretty much to perfection at the current level with popular averages, not leaving room for disappointment. liz: hate one step forward, two back -- >> no, the other way. liz: either way, not moving fast. is that at a decent clip? >> actually, that's something we talked about last week on the show, and what we're looking at,...
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its performance is not really tied into the uk economy. you have to start looking at the second and the third tier of the uk companies. we need to also look at the credit markets. the nonfinancials are very, very safe names. they tend to overperform in a rally. as a result, when drawing comparisons between the uk and the nonuk, one needs to be aware of the fact that we're not comparing like for like. >> final point, just what are your favorite ideas? what do you think happens with trades in the next, say, four to six weeks? >> i think certainly going into the end of january, we continue to rally. i wouldn't get in the way of the risk on sentiment seems very, very potent. after that, i get really concerned, indeed. i think the talks in the u.s. about the debt ceiling combined with spanish gdp coming out, my worries about german gdp, uk numbers at the end of this week, i think it is a rather unpleasant cocktail which is brewing. the last time, the story in the u.s. did stop the rally in its tracks. combined with bad news possibly later in th
its performance is not really tied into the uk economy. you have to start looking at the second and the third tier of the uk companies. we need to also look at the credit markets. the nonfinancials are very, very safe names. they tend to overperform in a rally. as a result, when drawing comparisons between the uk and the nonuk, one needs to be aware of the fact that we're not comparing like for like. >> final point, just what are your favorite ideas? what do you think happens with trades...
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don't forget how large that economy is relative to the world economies so i think the market has nothing but not green shoots but blossoming flowers. go buy it. >> so why then, doc, are you still more cautious than the other guys? >> partly because, judge, i like owning options instead of owning equities. i just do. the only times i like owning equities are like for instance when joe and i fight about stocks with nice yield. i mean whether it's a verizon or whether it is intel, if i'm talking about a 4% dividend yielder that i can get in there and write options against it as well and take it to double digits on the return i like that. but i don't like buying apple. i don't like buying a lot of the stocks that don't have the yield, judge, that are attractive to me. instead, i trade the options. >> speaking of verizon i'm glad you mentioned it. next week is a bonanza earnings week. there are so many important companies reporting next week that that is going to decide where this market goes. don't you think? >> yes. the expectations in terms of what the potential growth for eps and the pote
don't forget how large that economy is relative to the world economies so i think the market has nothing but not green shoots but blossoming flowers. go buy it. >> so why then, doc, are you still more cautious than the other guys? >> partly because, judge, i like owning options instead of owning equities. i just do. the only times i like owning equities are like for instance when joe and i fight about stocks with nice yield. i mean whether it's a verizon or whether it is intel, if...
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chances are the economy is going to get better. wouldn't that make you want to buy stocks right now. >> it does. we're not -- we're actually a little bit more bullish, esespecially the first six months of the year. we still are expecting slow growth, commodities where we're shorting assets, but in terms of u.s. and in terms of international, we do expect growth, and we are excited about what's happening, but later on in the year i think it's going to be another story. >> what do you mean by that, later on in the year? what's going to be the upset later on in the year? >> there's a lot more issues coming out in terms of europe later in the year. right now it's all about -- it's all about expectations of positive growth that we have in the u.s., but, you know, we still have issues, and investors have got to focus on -- we've got an incredible spending problem. there's still problems in europe so we don't really believe that this year is going to be like last year, but we do expect small positive returns though. >> rick santelli, i wa
chances are the economy is going to get better. wouldn't that make you want to buy stocks right now. >> it does. we're not -- we're actually a little bit more bullish, esespecially the first six months of the year. we still are expecting slow growth, commodities where we're shorting assets, but in terms of u.s. and in terms of international, we do expect growth, and we are excited about what's happening, but later on in the year i think it's going to be another story. >> what do you...
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raising taxes grows the economy or -- >> no, it does not grow the economy. we have to be serious how much the president contributed to overall debt picture. $6 trillion since he came to office. nearly $20,000 per united states citizen has been added since president obama came into office. so just silly to argue he hasn't contributed. melissa: blame game gets us nowhere because everybody contributed to it. god it is a mess and we have to fix it. when you hear people like nancy pelosi saying the fiscal cliff was not enough on the revenue side. you hear, you know, many politicians chiming in. howard dean, for example, saying in december that the truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes. we're not going to get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. the rich can't solve the problem. i guess that is where i'm going with this is, it seems like, especially from what you're saying susan, everyone will have to pay more taxes to get out of this. >> i actually don't agree with that point. i don't agree with howard dean either. we're not lo
raising taxes grows the economy or -- >> no, it does not grow the economy. we have to be serious how much the president contributed to overall debt picture. $6 trillion since he came to office. nearly $20,000 per united states citizen has been added since president obama came into office. so just silly to argue he hasn't contributed. melissa: blame game gets us nowhere because everybody contributed to it. god it is a mess and we have to fix it. when you hear people like nancy pelosi...
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state and local level consumes one-third more of the economy in california and texas. said one-third of the nation beaufort one negative 11 negative welfare recipients are in california all there 1/8 of the population. everything. john: a percentage of households receiving public assistance is much higher in california and lower than average in texas. that means that you start the pork people. >> 42% lower cost of living in texas and california. u.s. census bureau has been criticized over 20 years for not taking into account the cost of living that different states with housing and food and clothing. john: there was the old poverty rate measure were texas lost 16 percent of the people in california were in poverty, of 17 percent in texas but now it includes the cost of living. >> and government benefits. with this new measure would week after the election news see the state with the highest poverty rate in the nation is california even higher than the district of columbia. that should be a warning to progressives who maintain the big government model is the path of to
state and local level consumes one-third more of the economy in california and texas. said one-third of the nation beaufort one negative 11 negative welfare recipients are in california all there 1/8 of the population. everything. john: a percentage of households receiving public assistance is much higher in california and lower than average in texas. that means that you start the pork people. >> 42% lower cost of living in texas and california. u.s. census bureau has been criticized over...
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economy hostage. here's the president. >> they will not collect a r ransra ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. and they'd better choose quickly because time is running short. >> and house speaker john boehner responded quickly saying the house republican majority will do the responsible thing. will make sure the nation meets its obligations, will keep the government running. that's trying to take that specter of the government shutdown off the table. we've got a real confrontation brewing because the president says i'm going to break the habit of crisis-driven fiscal negotiations. and if he succeeds in that, somebody's going to have to break. we're going to find out pretty soon. because the debt ceiling could be hit in as little as one month from now. >> it's interesting that we still haven't had any ideas, though, on spen
economy hostage. here's the president. >> they will not collect a r ransra ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. and they'd better choose quickly because time is running short. >> and house speaker john boehner responded quickly saying the house republican majority will do the responsible thing. will make...
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the financials are a pure play against an improving economy. that is a procyclical type investment strategy looking at industrial financial technology. i think that is where we are. liz: american express, you also like leucadia as another pic. i guess it acts as a dow component. would love to know your perspective right now. >> they put out a good number today. again, here' here is another sin where management is running the business very well. additionally they have the right kind of finance in here right now, the upper echelon client, those people who pay their bills and pay them on time, you also have the benefit getting exposure in the emerging market. one of the keys for being successful for big businesses right now is to make sure you have exposure in these emerging markets. that is where real growth is happening and they could offset to that 2% growth rate we are experiencing in the u.s. that is one of the things you havlook for in these markets rit now. david: information technology, you are big on ebay. why? >> if you look at what ebay
the financials are a pure play against an improving economy. that is a procyclical type investment strategy looking at industrial financial technology. i think that is where we are. liz: american express, you also like leucadia as another pic. i guess it acts as a dow component. would love to know your perspective right now. >> they put out a good number today. again, here' here is another sin where management is running the business very well. additionally they have the right kind of...
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economy is being under valued. $1.4 trillion is the run-up and i expect the u.s. to outperform again. >> joey? >> i think the u.s. continues to do well and the ultimate indicator is where volatility is. it's incredibly cheap and remains -- insurance can be provided to protect your portfolio. i don't think that the ultimate concerns that the people have. >> we've got news on germany and the german economy, gdp is contracting. it was down half of a percent. in 011 it was up 3% n 2012 it was up .7%. they are the engine for growth there. i'm not sure it's going to work out for you in the first half of the year. for europe, i don't think it's undervalued. it's had a great run into the u.s. >> two major banks report earnings tomorrow. much of the conversation that we're having today certainly directed to what is going on with the banks and what it could mean for the markets. jpmorgan, goldman, ahead of the market tomorrow. joe t., you take yours? >> my position has been goldman sachs, be morgan stanley. it's been that way for a long time. i like the marketplace here. i
economy is being under valued. $1.4 trillion is the run-up and i expect the u.s. to outperform again. >> joey? >> i think the u.s. continues to do well and the ultimate indicator is where volatility is. it's incredibly cheap and remains -- insurance can be provided to protect your portfolio. i don't think that the ultimate concerns that the people have. >> we've got news on germany and the german economy, gdp is contracting. it was down half of a percent. in 011 it was up 3% n...
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fuel economy, cafe, and people's driving habits. more conscious fuel economy. we see a small growing small car segment. as p gr as /* people want the functionality that shows their personality and we believe this does that. >> is the bounce back, as far as recovering from the economy and u.s. sales. >> i think the playing field is level. we are starting the year with good inventory. same time last year we didn't have good inventory. this year it is a level play be field. we think we have tail wind as an industry going into the year. age of the car fleet. 11 plus years. all of those things. we think everybody is breaking great new product to market. we think that will stimulate as well. >> you are in california. you are seeing sales way above the national average in terms of increases there. does that pretend that rest of the country follows in 2013-14. >> historically we looked to the coast, california and new york, as bell weathers for the rest of the nation. if that pattern stays true, yes, we think that that result could come across the u.s. and we could get
fuel economy, cafe, and people's driving habits. more conscious fuel economy. we see a small growing small car segment. as p gr as /* people want the functionality that shows their personality and we believe this does that. >> is the bounce back, as far as recovering from the economy and u.s. sales. >> i think the playing field is level. we are starting the year with good inventory. same time last year we didn't have good inventory. this year it is a level play be field. we think we...
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. >>> we are moments away from the fed's latest read on the economy. here is how the markets are doing. right now the dow lost its strength, down 23 point on the trading session. s&p is dead in the water all hour and nasdaq is actually up about 10 points on the trading session, ty? >> sue w, watch this story in algeria. that does it for "power lunch." thanks for joining us today. >> and "street signs" begins now with breaking news on the fed and economy. >> that's right, sue and tyler. we have boeing in crisis. we have housing on the mend and five-star stock picks. we've also got the very latest on a scary story in algeria where militants say they have taken 41 people hostage, include something americans, at a bp oil field. well get to that in a moment but let us get to breaking news for the fed and how they are performing and get to steve liesman. steve? >> the federal reserve district says economic growth is modest to moderate in all 12 districts. that's how we normally lead but that's not the most important. what is important is the talk about how f
. >>> we are moments away from the fed's latest read on the economy. here is how the markets are doing. right now the dow lost its strength, down 23 point on the trading session. s&p is dead in the water all hour and nasdaq is actually up about 10 points on the trading session, ty? >> sue w, watch this story in algeria. that does it for "power lunch." thanks for joining us today. >> and "street signs" begins now with breaking news on the fed and...
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the chinese economy is obviously a major and inner ene ener -- f iron ore. it looks that the fundamentals are in place for an aussie breakout. >> give us your levels, todd. >> sure. the australian dollar, technically speaking, is facing a breakout, 1.06. this is a range that's been in place for almost a year and a half. so, 1.06 is the entrillion on a weekly break. you want to take profit up around 110. >> all right, todd, thank you for that. todd gordon of aspen. and more money in motion every friday, 5:30 p.m. eastern time. tim, in terms of the iron ore, we saw big spikes in the price in fourth quarter in china. >> yeah, how about a vej mite sandwich, too? you have big chinese data coming out, but iron ore, goldman has that note out. watch that chart. >> let's play a little good, bad and ugly and tonight -- stars dan nay tan. first up, dan said to keep an eye on yahoo!. take a listen. >> the mighty goldman sachs reinitiated the stock with a buy of $22, 12-month price target. they say the sum of the parts is much greater. i actually agree. implied volatilit
the chinese economy is obviously a major and inner ene ener -- f iron ore. it looks that the fundamentals are in place for an aussie breakout. >> give us your levels, todd. >> sure. the australian dollar, technically speaking, is facing a breakout, 1.06. this is a range that's been in place for almost a year and a half. so, 1.06 is the entrillion on a weekly break. you want to take profit up around 110. >> all right, todd, thank you for that. todd gordon of aspen. and more...
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believe it or not the flu costs our economy $87 billion. i don't know about you but regardless of all the medicine and remedies and germ sanitizers available it still seems like everyone i know is either out with the flu or they're panicked about getting it. makes me wonder if we need to take a step back, take a deep breath and ask of all the money we're spending is just going down the drain? with me is dr. sreedhar potarazu. head of vital spring technologies. dr. p, welcome back to the show. >> thank you for having me back. melissa: stop the purell madness. i'm surrounded by it here on the set because we have it all over the building. everyone is sick. everyone is panicked. you hear my voice. everyone we're all sick but we're purelling ourselves to death. is it not working? >> well, do you have a bottle on your desk right now? melissa: it is funny that you should say that because, yes i do. i have one in my purse. and -- >> turn the bottle around and tell me what the percentage of alcohol is in that? >> 70%. >> that one is okay but a lot o
believe it or not the flu costs our economy $87 billion. i don't know about you but regardless of all the medicine and remedies and germ sanitizers available it still seems like everyone i know is either out with the flu or they're panicked about getting it. makes me wonder if we need to take a step back, take a deep breath and ask of all the money we're spending is just going down the drain? with me is dr. sreedhar potarazu. head of vital spring technologies. dr. p, welcome back to the show....
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how will it affect the economy? we will hear from the man managing your money. also, ebay tells us how the company is cashing in on the red-hot transit after the company turns in their best earnings report ever. >>> and last but not least a rare and explosive interview with wells fargo chairman and ceo telling us us about another mortgage decline. we will see you in the last hour of the trading day. mandy, see you then. >> indeed we will. >>> looking like a tough quarter. john has three important numbers in this report. what are those three? >> with $13.6 mill billion, plus or minus a half billion. and so here are my three numberes. one, pc client group revenues. intel had 8.6 million in revenue. that group overall, expecting to be a little higher in q4 and that has to come from pcs or servers. pc sales are down 4.9% from last year. if that's right, you got to hope servers deliver big for intel. two full year gross margin guidance, with capex spending and particularly important now because of how demand shifts in the pc market. his intel plans running below capa
how will it affect the economy? we will hear from the man managing your money. also, ebay tells us how the company is cashing in on the red-hot transit after the company turns in their best earnings report ever. >>> and last but not least a rare and explosive interview with wells fargo chairman and ceo telling us us about another mortgage decline. we will see you in the last hour of the trading day. mandy, see you then. >> indeed we will. >>> looking like a tough...
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yet the economy is -- the real economy is trading somewhat off its highs. if you look at europe, for example, where the headlines have been negative. the news flow has been awful. performance has been awful as well. so the market in europe has more reflected the performance of the real economy than it has here in the u.s. the fed qe program, the safe haven of the u.s. has caused money to flow to this part of the world. i think that leaves the u.s. a little pricier and perhaps more of a risk. >> it takes courage to fight the fed, though, right? >> absolutely. but ultimately and jack said it, fundamentals do matter. i think the market will reflect those. >> i heard active management does better in down markets than the index. they do better in the up markets. >> no question about it. and if you looked at the '08 to first quarter of '09 period, many people left them, haven't come back. god forbid we have another experience like that. then you'll see the index funds have a hard time recapturing the momentum. >> you see a blend of active and passive? >> i think
yet the economy is -- the real economy is trading somewhat off its highs. if you look at europe, for example, where the headlines have been negative. the news flow has been awful. performance has been awful as well. so the market in europe has more reflected the performance of the real economy than it has here in the u.s. the fed qe program, the safe haven of the u.s. has caused money to flow to this part of the world. i think that leaves the u.s. a little pricier and perhaps more of a risk....
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it would be a self-inflicted wound on the economy. it would slow down our growth, might tip us into recession, and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. as the speaker said two years ago, it would be, and i'm quoting, speaker boehner now, a finance ral disaster not only for us but for the worldwide economy. so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills, or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. and they better choose quickly because time is running short. the last time republicans in congress even flirted with this idea our aaa credit
it would be a self-inflicted wound on the economy. it would slow down our growth, might tip us into recession, and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. as the speaker said two years ago, it would be, and i'm quoting, speaker boehner now, a finance ral disaster not only for us but for the worldwide economy. so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans...
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lou: the obama economy in tonight's "chalk talk" we take a look at the obama economic failure. anti-gun advocate started as seven democrat, and day distort his campaign ad. he supports the second amendment steven haze of the weekly standard, a former bush special assistant to next. ♪ [ male announcer ] where do you turn for legal matters? at legalzoom, we've created a better place to handle your legal needs. maybe you have questions about incorporating a business you'd like to start. or questions about protecting your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like to find the right attorney to help guide you along, answer any questions and offer advice. with an "a" rating from the better business bureau legalzoom helps you get personalized and affordable legal protection. in most states, a legal plan attorney is available with every personalized document to answer any questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-miion artifac
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grow the economy by bringing in some certainty to it. if he wants to fight hard for tax rate increases, he ought to be fighting just as hard for spending cuts. >> you know, governor, he made an interesting point during his news conference this week where he said if -- if this debate is just about reducing the fiscal deficit, he's on board and let's get it done, but he suspects that there are a lot of conservative republicans out there for whom this debate is about the bigger picture of the role the federal government plays in americans' lives, and he said that's not a debate he wants to have. he doesn't want to be cutting entitlement programs just because conservatives want to reduce the role of government in americans' lives. is it possible we're having two simultaneous debates at once here? >> well, he's got to reconcile the differences. almost like saying i know i'm overweight but don't ask me to go on a diet. i mean, there's got to be efficiencies found in the federal government. the fact that we're cutting spending doesn't mean that
grow the economy by bringing in some certainty to it. if he wants to fight hard for tax rate increases, he ought to be fighting just as hard for spending cuts. >> you know, governor, he made an interesting point during his news conference this week where he said if -- if this debate is just about reducing the fiscal deficit, he's on board and let's get it done, but he suspects that there are a lot of conservative republicans out there for whom this debate is about the bigger picture of...
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economy is recovering. the u.s. consumer has delevered, has got more confidence in the system. we're past the election. the u.s. economy is recovering. that's unmistakable. the speed of it still remains to be determined. but we're recovering. china leadership happened. china will support the growth in that economy and they will drive domestic demand. europe is not getting worse. and there are signs of green shoots even in japan at this point. >> all right. >> and then you've got all the brazil and indonesia which are still exciting stories. i feel good about where the world is heading. is it on a bull streak? no. but is it on a firmer footing? yes. as a long-term investor i care about firm footing. >> some day we will go through 15,000 on the dow, and then 16,000. and then 17,000. >> yeah. >> i mean i just wonder is that within the next couple of years? i mean it's about time. it's been -- we went from 800 to 14,000. and we haven't moved from 14,000 in like 10, 12 years. >> my father always says a journey of a thous
economy is recovering. the u.s. consumer has delevered, has got more confidence in the system. we're past the election. the u.s. economy is recovering. that's unmistakable. the speed of it still remains to be determined. but we're recovering. china leadership happened. china will support the growth in that economy and they will drive domestic demand. europe is not getting worse. and there are signs of green shoots even in japan at this point. >> all right. >> and then you've got all...
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no really good news and our economy. there is a huge opportunity. the saudi arabia of energy by 2020 if we are allowed to get to it. lori: thank you. melissa: all right. sports. superable 47 is now the battle of the bros. twenty-eight to 13 capturing the afc crown and a chance to play his brother. san francisco forty-niners and the big game. 28-24 yesterday. played one week from sunday in new orleans. kick up its 6:30 p.m. eastern time. i don't expect immediate to blow up this battle. melissa: was there mom on morning television? who will she reform. the camera on her during the game. dad. both football players before the begin coaches. we have been down this road before. i'm getting excited about this. the buccaneers fan by marriage can be very tough. all right. coming up tonight, the jobs council has not had an official meeting in one year. set to retire at the end of the month. our power panel will discuss. tonight at 5:00 p.m. eastern right here on fox business. don't miss it. melissa: there are several ahead in our programming. live programming
no really good news and our economy. there is a huge opportunity. the saudi arabia of energy by 2020 if we are allowed to get to it. lori: thank you. melissa: all right. sports. superable 47 is now the battle of the bros. twenty-eight to 13 capturing the afc crown and a chance to play his brother. san francisco forty-niners and the big game. 28-24 yesterday. played one week from sunday in new orleans. kick up its 6:30 p.m. eastern time. i don't expect immediate to blow up this battle. melissa:...
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what would it mean for the market or the economy and would republicans again get the blame? >> republicans unfairly got the blame for last time. uncontrolled spending and inability to bring it back. that is what causes the credit downgrade. these squabbles over the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff ultimately get resolved and they don't change the status quo much. if you look at history you realize this is not what is threatening the credit worthiness, it is spending. >> to exploit, who wants to do this, have to entitle spending because with 10,000 people turned 65 everyday, this is unsustainable and we have to modernize the system. gerri: words from your lips to god's ears. thank you for coming on. thank you so much. >> thank you. gerri: and we come back to gerri: of good news for housing? a handful of new surveys being released and obamacare adding middle-class americans bottom line but some say it could be even worse than we thought. we will hear from the governor on what has been called a mandate plus. there is a man right there. stay with us. [ male announcer ] at scott
what would it mean for the market or the economy and would republicans again get the blame? >> republicans unfairly got the blame for last time. uncontrolled spending and inability to bring it back. that is what causes the credit downgrade. these squabbles over the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff ultimately get resolved and they don't change the status quo much. if you look at history you realize this is not what is threatening the credit worthiness, it is spending. >> to exploit,...